

noreaster wrote:Ugh, so true. And they used fire in the torch...how about all the witches burned to the stake in Salem using the same type of fire. I mean seriously... Ugh, the general population doesn't even pick up on this stuff. Ugh, those fascists. And how about that sky, it was so blue. I mean duh.
observ wrote:noreaster wrote:Ugh, so true. And they used fire in the torch...how about all the witches burned to the stake in Salem using the same type of fire. I mean seriously... Ugh, the general population doesn't even pick up on this stuff. Ugh, those fascists. And how about that sky, it was so blue. I mean duh.
imo -- aside from the Queen business it was the usual ludicrously over-the-top, semi-coherent opening-spectacle mob-scene/theatrical orgy (but that National Health salute was really ... special).All I expect from these things is excess plus possibility that the whole stadium will levitate and spin like a Tilt-a-Whirl.

c'est Moi! wrote:It made sense to someone who was born in a British territory and lived in a country that was part of the British commonwealth for most of their life
c'est Moi! wrote:It made sense to someone who was born in a British territory and lived in a country that was part of the British commonwealth for most of their life, was fed mostly British and European history in high school, and grew up (before satellite/cable TV) watching mostly British television programs. I guess they should have made the opening ceremonies more simple minded so that you Americans could appreciate it more, you are after all far more important than anyone else in the world and need to be catered to...
(either way, I doubt they really care very much what you think)

no longer a ridger wrote:c'est Moi! wrote:It made sense to someone who was born in a British territory and lived in a country that was part of the British commonwealth for most of their life, was fed mostly British and European history in high school, and grew up (before satellite/cable TV) watching mostly British television programs. I guess they should have made the opening ceremonies more simple minded so that you Americans could appreciate it more, you are after all far more important than anyone else in the world and need to be catered to...
(either way, I doubt they really care very much what you think)
I'm not sure what you're talking about. The opening ceremony started around the 19th century then zoomed into the industrial revolution, took a right turn into Tolkien land to forge some rings, then gave us spinning beds for the NHS. A millenia or so of British history appeared to have been ignored.
BTW the UK is a big country. I doubt all of the millions of people who live there have a universal view of the opening ceremonies!

no longer a ridger wrote:I'm not c'est moi. I'm just genuinely puzzled. A) You act like you speak for all people who are British in any way. B) It did bizarrely focus on just a few moments in British History, and ignored all the rest.
I simply thought it wasn't all that well done. Why all the anger?

c'est Moi! wrote:no longer a ridger wrote:I'm not c'est moi. I'm just genuinely puzzled. A) You act like you speak for all people who are British in any way. B) It did bizarrely focus on just a few moments in British History, and ignored all the rest.
I simply thought it wasn't all that well done. Why all the anger?
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c'est moi wrote:I guess they should have made the opening ceremonies more simple minded so that you Americans could appreciate it more, you are after all far more important than anyone else in the world and need to be catered to...
Don't lose any sleep over it, I'm sure Dan will be back soon to entertain you.
(either way, I doubt they really care very much what you think)

¡Ya Basta! wrote:I could hear 1 million Indians groaning at the whitewashed history of the UK.

Leon.Anus wrote:¡Ya Basta! wrote:I could hear 1 million Indians groaning at the whitewashed history of the UK.
typical of the 1% eh?

Leon.Anus wrote:truth be told, at the end of the day, i just don't care about their plight or heritage. So yeah, you got me on that one.



cherryblossom wrote:Boy did I put the nail in their coffin.
cherryblossom wrote:OH CRAP! I'm so sorry.
c'est Moi! wrote:London 2012: Danny Boyle's story of Britain was a celebration of freedom
| Shami Chakrabarti
Sunday 29 July 2012
Some called it too PC, others said that by participating one sanitised the less ethical sponsors – but the opening ceremony was a truthful story of Britain
I got off the bus in Stratford with most of my fellow Olympic flag-bearers. As we went through security, one of the fresh-faced soldiers back from Afghanistan asked for a photo with the legendary Ethiopian distance runner Haile Gebrselassie. It was a touching start to my London 2012 opening ceremony experience. Volunteers – including many in their late teens and early 20s – and professional organisers worked so enthusiastically and seamlessly as to appear indistinguishable.
This atmosphere was as much about Danny Boyle's influence as the show itself. He greeted my friend Doreen Lawrence with the confession that she had been his first inspiration for the flag-carrying party. With typical humility, she expressed surprise that he knew who she was. He shook his head in incredulity and gave her a hug. Sure enough and for the rest of the buildup, I watched him passing among the participants – especially the volunteers – trying to give personal thanks to as many as possible.
The backstage atmosphere gave more than a hint of the democratic nature of the spectacle itself. I could hear school kids and A-list artists alike warming up in the makeshift huts that served as dressing and green rooms. I saw the huge piles of hospital beds and rows of costumes in waiting. The wardrobe department spoke surprisingly calmly of the awesome challenge of dressing a cast of thousands.
Sally Becker (a flag-bearer who saved so many children from death in Bosnia) described with infectious humour driving an ambulance under fire, while Leyma Gbowee (credited with ending the civil war in Liberia) hastened to remind us she had only won the Nobel peace prize once. While proud to represent Liberty holding the flag in such incredible human rights company, my lack of personal sacrifice was rarely far from my thoughts. I also knew some would accuse us of sanitising the less ethical sponsors and more controlling aspects of this international institution while others would charge the organisers with "political correctness gone mad".
Yet if, like me, you believe internationalism can be for people and values, not just corporations and military alliances, how can you resist sharing the optimism of Boyle's ambition? When the emails and texts came in from friends across the political spectrum over the weekend, one in particular noticed the poignant contrast between the Beijing and London approach. In China, human rights campaigners get locked up; in Britain, even the most irritating gets to carry the Olympic flag.
My own gentle scepticism began to evaporate from the moment the children performed traditional songs from the home nations. My 10-year-old's favourite parts were the Industrial Revolution and Mr Bean closely followed by the comedy genius of the royal Bond sequence which demonstrated that even the pinnacle of the British establishment can laugh at itself. This was a UK narrative capable of acknowledging pop culture, the internet and Windrush alongside Shakespeare, Elgar and the green and pleasant land.
Of course you can't please everyone, but I was a little surprised to see the tribute to the NHS and Great Ormond Street hospital criticised as a partisan stunt. A bit like their rights and freedoms, people in this country fiercely debate its delivery and application but generally cherish the principle of universal healthcare itself.
This didn't feel like a leftwing or rightwing rally. There was far too much variety, self-deprecation and wit – qualities that made the ceremony all the more British. From innovation in industry and technology to diversity in the arts and literature; from suffragettes and hunger marchers to punks and rappers – the pageant was a celebration of our freedom. As with all great theatre, it became progressively easy to suspend disbelief. Boyle's story of Britain was inclusive and truthful, co-ordinated and individual, spectacular and human, and it set a positive challenge for the Olympics, our country and the world.

Laertes607 wrote:cherryblossom wrote:OH CRAP! I'm so sorry.
no you aren't, loser! LOL

cherryblossom wrote:Laertes607 wrote:cherryblossom wrote:OH CRAP! I'm so sorry.
no you aren't, loser! LOL
Now, now, it's not nice to call names. If you would, kindly delete the quoted part of your message that shows what I said so I won't ruin it for anyone else.



Laertes607 wrote:cherryblossom wrote:Boy did I put the banana peel on their mats.
uhhhh, some of us might be watching it tonite. thanks, ms. party pooper
cherryblossom wrote:Today is the men's team final in gymnastics! I can't wait to see how Team USA does... they were so strong and consistant in the qualifying round. USA hasn't won team gold since the days of Peter Vidmar, Bart Connor, Mitch Gaylord and Tim Daggett - the Olympics that made every kid in my 4th grade class sign up for gymnastics! Between John Orozco and Danell Leyva, I'd be shocked if the US doesn't medal in the all-around. It's happening now... if you can't watch it, the NYT is live blogging it.

cherryblossom wrote:Yeah, I know. I promise not to vocally support any other Team USA. I should have known better, given my unwavering support of the Mets, Jets and Islanders that any team I root for, well...
cherryblossom wrote:Yeah, I know. I promise not to vocally support any other Team USA. I should have known better, given my unwavering support of the Mets, Jets and Islanders that any team I root for, well...
Horse wrote:How about the swimmer from Brooklyn...Pretty rare.
Lia Neal
Olympic Swimmer Neal Built Her Dream in Brooklyn

krakenblood wrote:cherryblossom wrote:Yeah, I know. I promise not to vocally support any other Team USA. I should have known better, given my unwavering support of the Mets, Jets and Islanders that any team I root for, well...
you can support Nick Mangold's sister Holley. She is on the weight lifting team

naked rev. trish wrote:you mean fight club?

cherryblossom wrote:krakenblood wrote:cherryblossom wrote:Yeah, I know. I promise not to vocally support any other Team USA. I should have known better, given my unwavering support of the Mets, Jets and Islanders that any team I root for, well...
you can support Nick Mangold's sister Holley. She is on the weight lifting team
She's a beast and I mean that as a compliment. That chick is hardcore.




I agree. She's amazing.cherryblossom wrote: She's a beast and I mean that as a compliment. That chick is hardcore.
observ wrote:I agree. She's amazing.cherryblossom wrote: She's a beast and I mean that as a compliment. That chick is hardcore.

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