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Obama getting caught in his lies

Postby tjq » 26 Apr 2010, 09:49

New York Post Updated: Sun., Apr. 25, 2010, 6:39 AM home
Secret papers reveal Senate 'talks' between Obama and Blagojevich

By CHARLES HURT Bureau Chief

Last Updated: 6:39 AM, April 25, 2010

Posted: 2:46 AM, April 24, 2010

WASHINGTON -- Sections of court papers filed by scandal-scarred former Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich that were mistakenly made public show a deeper involvement by President Obama in picking his Senate successor and call into question the president's public statements on the case.

According to passages in the papers filed Thursday by Blagojevich's lawyers -- which were blacked out under a judge's order but made visible by a computer glitch -- Obama, then president-elect, spoke directly to the disgraced governor on Dec. 1, 2008.

But just one week later -- on the day Blagojevich was indicted -- Obama told reporters flatly, "I had no contact with the governor or his office, and so we were not -- I was not aware of what was happening."

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The allegation is just one of a host of thorny claims about Obama that were apparently inadvertently revealed when a blogger found it was possible to read the redacted lines by simply copying and pasting them into a regular text file.

Blagojevich is set to go on trial in June on charges that he tried to sell the Senate seat vacated by Obama. The judge had ordered large sections of the defense team's filing to be blacked out.

The newly revealed sections also contradict Obama's claims that he never discussed favorable legislative action in exchange for a large campaign contribution with his former neighbor, fund-raiser and key supporter Tony Rezko, who has since been convicted of fraud.

Blagojevich's lawyers charge that Rezko has told the feds that, indeed, he did have such conversations with a "public official." The defense believes the official to be Obama.

Also contained in the unredacted papers is a claim that, contrary to his denials, Obama did push longtime friend and adviser Valerie Jarrett for his old Senate seat using a union official as a go-between with Blagojevich.

The filing indicates that the union official has testified to federal investigators about a phone call he had with Obama on the day before he won the presidency in which he indicated that Jarrett "would be a good senator for the people of Illinois and would be a candidate who could win re-election."

The White House has refused to comment on the case.

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Re: Obama getting caught in his lies

Postby Laura » 26 Apr 2010, 10:11

*froth* in 3... 2... 1...
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Re: Obama getting caught in his lies

Postby Laura » 26 Apr 2010, 10:16

I have fond memories of foam parties. Do kids these days still do that?
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Postby the ghost of dave » 26 Apr 2010, 10:17

we sure do, if you're interested i got me a bottle of mr bubbles and a bath tub.
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Postby DAN O » 26 Apr 2010, 10:23

I hope you're not foolish enough to think that these libatards care Obama lied? He can lie all he wants, they couldn't care less.
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Re: Obama getting caught in his lies

Postby Laura » 26 Apr 2010, 10:28

I'm still stuck on hiding a multitude of sins under 3 feet of bubbles, Dan.
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Re: Obama getting caught in his lies

Postby the ghost of dave » 26 Apr 2010, 10:33

ahh yes the sin cleansing power of mr bubbles.
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Re: Obama getting caught in his lies

Postby chopper » 26 Apr 2010, 11:18

Do you 'tards ever read what you post?

Let's break down what the Post article actually says. An unidentified blogger claimed that he had hacked redacted copies of court filings made by Blagojevich's lawyers which allegedly say that their client spoke with Obama just before the incident for which he's charged occurred. The blogger doesn't say how he got his hands on these protected court filings nor does he show the alleged document nor does he cite the alleged statements made by the attorneys, nor is it explained why a judge would go to the trouble of redacting text from a document that's not supposed to be released in the first place.

But even if it were all true, it's an uncorroborated, second-party statement made by Blagojevich's attorneys on behalf of a corrupt, self-serving liar facing years of prison time who has every reason to impeach Obama's credibility in order to create reasonable doubt in his own trial. In fact, Blagojevich's attorneys are assembling their witness list this week and nothing would serve them better than to have a judge order Obama to testify since it was his vacated seat that's at the core of this trial.

I'll do better than the NY Post. I'll identity the mystery blogger. He's Sammy Benoit, an anti-Obama/pro-Israel asshole. Not a journalist, not a reporter -- a blogger who used to be with the World Nut Daily clone, Pajamas Media, who now writes right wing opinion pieces for his Blogspot blog, Yid With Lid. That's the source of this "news".
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Postby c'est Moi! » 26 Apr 2010, 11:39

If that's really the case, maybe Obama will become a republican next,
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Re: Obama getting caught in his lies

Postby nyujoe » 26 Apr 2010, 11:42

This is as good as the Obama has a drinking problem story.
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Re: Obama getting caught in his lies

Postby the ghost of dave » 26 Apr 2010, 11:51

lol yeah that was epic
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Re: Obama getting caught in his lies

Postby tjq » 26 Apr 2010, 11:54

Drinking, cigarettes and cocaine. Please be accurate.
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Re: Obama getting caught in his lies

Postby Laura » 26 Apr 2010, 11:57

I also heard that sometimes, after he goes to the bathroom, President Obama only pretends to wash his hands.
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Re: Obama getting caught in his lies

Postby the ghost of dave » 26 Apr 2010, 11:59

Did you know his mother has a LIBERAL arts degree.
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Postby nyujoe » 26 Apr 2010, 12:00

Yes, that's exactly what that story said if I remember correctly. That President Obama has a drinking and coke problem. I wish I got the same editions of the newspaper as TJQ does. No wait. I do get the same edition. He just adds stuff to the stories to make them read as he wishes.
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Re: Obama getting caught in his lies

Postby Laura » 26 Apr 2010, 12:01

the ghost of dave wrote:Did you know his mother has a LIBERAL arts degree.


And she had sex with a black guy once.
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Re: Obama getting caught in his lies

Postby the ghost of dave » 26 Apr 2010, 12:02

a traitor to her race, i suppose next your going to point out that his father was some no good foreigner.
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Re: Obama getting caught in his lies

Postby Laura » 26 Apr 2010, 12:03

You said it, not me.
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Re: Obama getting caught in his lies

Postby the ghost of dave » 26 Apr 2010, 12:04

well at least he's not gotten caught humming show tunes while cruising for dudes in airport bathrooms.
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Re: Obama getting caught in his lies

Postby Laura » 26 Apr 2010, 12:08

Yet. But I think I heard him whistle 'Memory' once before the state of the union.
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Postby the ghost of dave » 26 Apr 2010, 12:11

true... i can't think of a single straight dude i've ever heard hum that song....
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Postby chopper » 26 Apr 2010, 12:15

I think it's amazing how well Rod Blagojevich has rehabilitated his credibility with the right wing.
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Postby Laura » 26 Apr 2010, 12:17

chopper wrote:I think it's amazing how well Rod Blagojevich has rehabilitated his credibility with the right wing.


It had to be his stint on Celebrity Apprentice. Nothing says productive member of society like reality tv.
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Postby the ghost of dave » 26 Apr 2010, 12:49

birds of a feather eh?
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Postby c'est Moi! » 26 Apr 2010, 17:36

tjq wrote:Drinking, cigarettes and cocaine. Please be accurate.

At least GWB didn't smoke cigarettes in public, he was so much a better example for all.
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Postby ¡Ya Basta! » 26 Apr 2010, 18:37

Obama has been lying since day 1. He promised a "public option" for heatlhcare. He promised not to allow the insurance companies to keep profiting off of illness (but then invited these same companies to form the HC bill). He promised to end "Don't ask don't tell" and pass the Employee Free Choice Act (and has done nothing to get it passed in congress).

Obama the candidate promised a lot. Obama the president has proven to be the "centrist" Clinton was. He just sounds better when he lies.
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Postby justin wizard » 26 Apr 2010, 19:10

c'est Moi! wrote:If that's really the case, maybe Obama will become a republican next,


no wonder i'm glad im an Independent..
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Postby Laertes607 » 26 Apr 2010, 19:45

nyujoe wrote:Yes, that's exactly what that story said if I remember correctly. That President Obama has a drinking and coke problem. I wish I got the same editions of the newspaper as TJQ does. No wait. I do get the same edition. He just adds stuff to the stories to make them read as he wishes.


tjq is a real lib-tard
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Postby c'est Moi! » 26 Apr 2010, 20:04

justin wizard wrote:
c'est Moi! wrote:If that's really the case, maybe Obama will become a republican next,


no wonder i'm glad im an Independent..


You are really too stupid to be anything rational, independent sounds right for you.
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Postby titus » 26 Apr 2010, 22:03

can someone tell me why all these commercials using obamas speeches, concerning debt elimination,prescription drug care and medical care.all commercials for various organizations is he profiting from this one way or another.i dont remember any other president that ive heard so much.and they all seem like seedy organizations, can you say acorn.
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Postby chopper » 26 Apr 2010, 23:08

titus wrote:can someone tell me why all these commercials using obamas speeches, concerning debt elimination,prescription drug care and medical care.

Because they can. What they're using are excerpts from Obama's presidential speeches, which are public domain. Bush was subjected to the same indignities. Remember the 9/11 commemorative plates with Bush at Ground Zero?
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Postby titus » 27 Apr 2010, 21:44

buying a commerative plate is alot different than contacting a debt consolidation company on the pre text that president obama says so,or to sign p for a prescription plan or medical plan that costs like 1.99 a day based on pre obamas saying to do it.the whole thing stinks of a scam. i guess caveat emptor.
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Postby ¡Ya Basta! » 27 Apr 2010, 22:20

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Obama sucks because someone is trying to make money off of him. We get it.
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Postby BobO » 27 Apr 2010, 22:24

Titus:

You ever think that people are using Obama's likeness because he is popular? Besides a urinal cake, I can't think of anything Bush could sell with his likeness.
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Postby tjq » 24 Jun 2010, 15:27

Oh, my. Is this getting good!


Harris: Obama knew of Blagojevich plot
BLAGO TRIAL | Price of Senate appointment of president-elect's friend
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BY NATASHA KORECKI AND SARAH OSTMAN Staff Reporters

A top aide to former Gov. Rod Blagojevich said he believed Barack Obama knew of Blagojevich's plot to win himself a presidential Cabinet post in exchange for appointing Valerie Jarrett to the U.S. Senate.

John Harris, Blagojevich's former chief of staff, testified Wednesday in the former governor's corruption trial that three days after the Nov. 4, 2008, presidential election, the ex-governor told Harris he felt confident Obama knew he wanted to swap perks.

"The president understands that the governor would be willing to make the appointment of Valerie Jarrett as long as he gets what he's asked for. . . . The governor gets the Cabinet appointment he's asked for," Harris said, explaining a recorded call.
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Re: Obama getting caught in his lies

Postby the ghost of dave » 24 Jun 2010, 15:28

did you loose your job also?
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Postby tjq » 24 Jun 2010, 15:31

No, but the market is trending down and my customers are light today, with the exception of some guys trading some options. Will probably get a little busy now near the close. Need to get a trade done?
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Re: Obama getting caught in his lies

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naw, i'd rather go with a trader he's not an idiot.
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Re: Obama getting caught in his lies

Postby tjq » 24 Jun 2010, 15:51

Note to Waltz: Learn how to put a sentence together properly prior to calling someone an idiot.
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Re: Obama getting caught in his lies

Postby Laura » 24 Jun 2010, 15:52

Yeah, tjq wins this round.
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yay! tjq wins again!
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Re: Obama getting caught in his lies

Postby Laura » 24 Jun 2010, 15:56

Dave got you the other day though. All in all this is a well-matched, low, feud that rates high on the amusement scale.
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Re: Obama getting caught in his lies

Postby chopper » 24 Jun 2010, 16:51

tjq wrote:Oh, my. Is this getting good!


Harris: Obama knew of Blagojevich plot
BLAGO TRIAL | Price of Senate appointment of president-elect's friend
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June 24, 2010
BY NATASHA KORECKI AND SARAH OSTMAN Staff Reporters

A top aide to former Gov. Rod Blagojevich said he believed Barack Obama knew of Blagojevich's plot to win himself a presidential Cabinet post in exchange for appointing Valerie Jarrett to the U.S. Senate.

John Harris, Blagojevich's former chief of staff, testified Wednesday in the former governor's corruption trial that three days after the Nov. 4, 2008, presidential election, the ex-governor told Harris he felt confident Obama knew he wanted to swap perks.

"The president understands that the governor would be willing to make the appointment of Valerie Jarrett as long as he gets what he's asked for. . . . The governor gets the Cabinet appointment he's asked for," Harris said, explaining a recorded call.

What "perk" was Obama supposedly trading for again? Blagojevich appointed his crony, Roland Burris, to the position, not Valerie Jarrett. For his part, Blagojevich was despised by both parties and had the lowest approval rating of any politician recorded by the Chicago Times in over 30 years of polling: only 4% of respondents rated him as even "good". Why would Obama want to give up his close friend and adviser from his transition team to bring aboard a train wreck like Blagojevich who stood zero chance of being confirmed for any cabinet position?

It's just Blagojevich continuing to throw shit against the wall to coerce a better plea bargain deal from the US Attorney. As I said, I think it's amazing how well Rod Blagojevich has rehabilitated his credibility with the right wing.
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Postby ¡Ya Basta! » 24 Jun 2010, 17:02

Is this the same TJQ who defended BP as being innocent until proven guilty? The same TJQ that claimed BP should not be held liable until proven guilty in a court of law?
Last question - Is anyone actually suprised at his double standard?
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Re: Obama getting caught in his lies

Postby tjq » 24 Jun 2010, 17:26

And where, please, did I convict anyone of being guilty of anything?
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Re: Obama getting caught in his lies

Postby the ghost of dave » 24 Jun 2010, 17:35

Laura wrote:Dave got you the other day though. All in all this is a well-matched, low, feud that rates high on the amusement scale.


yeah that one was classic... probably should be put in for post of the year.
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Re: Obama getting caught in his lies

Postby tjq » 24 Jun 2010, 17:37

What did he win? Where?

In case you haven't noticed, I own Waltz. He's my stalker and you can't have him.

Hussy.
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Postby the ghost of dave » 24 Jun 2010, 17:41

just keep on fucking that chicken bhatti boy
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